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GrinfilledCelt
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 Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:01 pm Post subject: Ru's Annual Anime Fan Questionnaire |
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I think this one deserves a thread of it's own. I'll let the guy who runs it explain:
| Quote: | Over the few years that I've been a fan, there has been many an occasion where a question popped up about some aspect of our interest in anime. At many of those times it would have been nice if we had numbers to work from. After a while, one gets really curious about just how many of us do different things. So I have been posting a questionnaire in the rec.arts.anime Usenet news group hierarchy since the late summer of 1997, and more recently Anime News Network and some fans have been announcing the web version. This year Anime on DVD is helping out, too. The statistics have indeed proven to be useful on occasion. Sometimes, the changes over the past few surveys are also interesting (sometimes more relevant than results from just one survey).
This is the 10th annual running of the survey. This questionnaire was originally concerned more or less with fans who used Usenet news groups, as a lot of input over the years came from newsgroup users. So, lacking sufficient anime web experience, it is a fair bit short on the web perspective, and certainly needs work to get more web-centric questions. Feel free to send me suggestions (either by e-mail or in the comment box at the end of the questionnaire).
Notes on filling out the questionnaire
Some of the questions may infringe on what you would consider personal information. Feel free to leave any unanswered.
Oh ya, this thing is REALLY LONG (over 260 questions, over 2600 lines, over 80 kbytes for the text-only version, over 200 kbytes for the web version). Be prepared to spend an hour on it. It's really a list of questions I wished I had numbers for, and I've had a LONG time to build it up. I thought I'd just warn you ahead of time. |
It would seem that the industry is beginning to see the value of this data, so participating in the survey may well help point the industry toward producing stuff that you want to see. Particularly letting them know that the kiddy garbage they seem to think is so popular isn't wanted (or is it?).
Just letting you know. I'm going to go take the survey now.
Ru's Annual Anime Fan Questionnaire
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jjjynx
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| Done the thing, well, I don't know how much help I'd be, he never placed in South East Asia, so I'd just assume I'm from East Asia...there's still a difference in how fast anime gets here, but oh, who cares? |
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GrinfilledCelt
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:09 am Post subject: |
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Here are my comments from the end of the survey:
| Quote: | | At first I thought you were another fan who was curious about the habits of other fans. Shortly after starting I thought, "This guy must be a marketing major." It didn't take long after that to realize that you are a marketing expert working in the industry. If you were really a fan there would have been a lot more questions about the content and types of anime I watch but you only seem to have a passing interest in that. You seem much more interested in my shopping and buying habits. As downright hostile as I am to marketing and advertising, it was still an interesting survey and I hope that in some small way my answers will bend the industry to my will. Bwhahahaha! |
The survey is divided into sections with an opportunity for comments at the end of each section. You can skip questions and save it (except for your comments) so you can do it in multiple sittings. The survey will be open until Oct 11th.
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MidNightBlue
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I have a question, what do some of these words mean, for some of them I have a working definition but I don't have an actual official definition:
seinen
josei
mecha
sentai
mahou shoujo
moe
shoujo-ai
shounen-ai
yaoi
yuri
hentai
I'm really enjoying these questions, they really hone in on what I like/dislike about anime. I wish anime writers would take a look at my reponses and then create anime based on it.
My god are these questions specific.
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Sorra
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mecha humanoid mechinary either as a suit or a replacement of a limb or body part for a person.
Hentai cartoon porn, poorly drawn and out of proportion horribly. |
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MidNightBlue
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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They even ask me about my singing preferences??
Yeah, so I'll sing along with opening/ending songs without knowing any of the meaning ... what does that say about me?
When they ask:
#E8. Which release version of anime do you collect? (check one)
That basically means if I bought it in America, then it's not Japanese domestic, right?
I can't believe I have actual preferences for most of these questions ... does that make me anal?
For example:
#F2. Some companies don't allow you to skip logo sequences and other similar trailers (by either using the skip button or the menu button). How do you feel about that? (check one)
I hate that
Or alternatively, something I don't understand why it would matter:
#F10. What kind of box do you MOST prefer to hold a series? (check one)
I'm on section "I" and I am beginning to get tired of this.
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Hungry Mongoose
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| MidNightBlue wrote: | | I have a question, what do some of these words mean, for some of them I have a working definition but I don't have an actual official definition: |
To the best of my knowledge...
seinen: Aimed at adult men.
josei: Aimed at adult women.
mecha: Combat robots, usually piloted by humans. Also refers to the genre that makes frequent use of them. Gundam is a prime example.
sentai: Task force. Super-sentai = superhero team, like the power rangers, and in this survey's context will be what they're referring to.
mahou shoujo: Magical girl. Card Captor Sakura is a prime example.
moe: The best way to describe it is as the idealisation of or an obsession with cute girls. I don't know of a direct translation.
shoujo-ai: Female x female love
shounen-ai: Male x male love.
yaoi: Male x male porn.
yuri: Female x female porn.
hentai: Anime/manga porn.
An interesting-looking survey, I'll probably take it later. Hopefully. I gave up on it at my first attempt, not so much because it's long, but because I had to think and I wasn't in the mood for doing that.
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MidNightBlue
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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Take it! Take it!
And yeah, you do have to think. You have to provide opinion on many many issues ... lots of thinking.
Do you know what I just realized? I practically live in anime forums.
I find it suprising that I didn't realize this until this survey.
I think towards the end I just put "I don't know" for stuff that I didn't care about or didn't care enough to think about.
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Hungry Mongoose
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Done! Overall, not bad. I do like the idea of paying to legally download anime.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:37 am Post subject: |
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I think I'll take it when I have free time. Aside from the fact that I have to go to a cafe and rent a computer, it would really take up at least an hour?whew!
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IT's FRUSTRATING!!! Blue against white!! And kernings! Anyway, if it's a short survey questionnaire I wouldn't mind those but...it's soooo long that I had to take a a break. Or maybe it's just my eyes....half way through I ended up checking the "I don't care" options. Allllrighty then, where was I...ahh~ yes, 3 days left, DEADLINES!!! *shunpou-s himself*
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GrinfilledCelt
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:00 am Post subject: |
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| MidNightBlue wrote: | When they ask:
#E8. Which release version of anime do you collect? (check one)
That basically means if I bought it in America, then it's not Japanese domestic, right? |
No. It's referring to the regular edition and the special edition that usually comes with the box to hold the whole series and some cheap trinket for an extra ten bucks.
| MidNightBlue wrote: | | I can't believe I have actual preferences for most of these questions ... does that make me anal? |
No, having preferences over trivial things doesn't make you anal; having preferences over trivial things which are extremely important to you is anal. e.g. preferring three minute eggs is not anal. Insisting on having exactly three minute eggs - not three minutes and ten seconds or two minutes and fifty-seven seconds is very anal.
| MidNightBlue wrote: | For example:
#F2. Some companies don't allow you to skip logo sequences and other similar trailers (by either using the skip button or the menu button). How do you feel about that? (check one)
I hate that |
Who doesn't? I thought that was a stupid question as was the previous one about regional locking (where disks from Japan or Europe wont play on American machines and visa versa.) Can anyone tell me what possible benefit for the consumer there is in that?
| MidNightBlue wrote: | Or alternatively, something I don't understand why it would matter:
#F10. What kind of box do you MOST prefer to hold a series? (check one) |
Questions like this are why I know that this guy is, or these guys are, an industry marketing hack(s) as they would be the only people who would be interested in answers to such questions or even think of to ask them.
| Hungry Hungry Mongoose wrote: | | I do like the idea of paying to legally download anime. |
Well guess what? It's going to happen, they're just feeling out the market. I told them that I'd go for it as long as the quality and price are reasonable, like no more than 50% of a hard copy at a brick & mortar (online sales are almost pure profit). Also, I will not tolerate copy protection BS. None of this iTunes type crap. If I pay for the stuff, it's mine. I want to be able to back it up so I don't have to buy it again if my computer dies. I want to be able to take it over to a friend's house and play it on his machine. If they can figure out a way to let me do that and prevent me from making copies for all of my friends, I could live with that.
In the comments, I warned them not to go the RIAA route. That would end up destroying their market here entirely.
All that reminds me of this:
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I think the question that I cared about the most was the one concerning what matters to me while I watch and after I've watched an anime series. For me it was "the underlying message that the writer is trying to convey".
If they are marketers, I wonder what they'll do if enough people wrote that as a criterion.
I treat anime as literature, whatever standards I hold to literature I hold the same for anime. If it doesn't pass as good literature ...
I found the trend analysis to be interesting:
Your position on distribution of fansub,
fandubs and similar of video titles that
ARE licensed or commercially available in your region?
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| GrinfilledCelt wrote: | | MidNightBlue wrote: | When they ask:
#E8. Which release version of anime do you collect? (check one)
That basically means if I bought it in America, then it's not Japanese domestic, right? |
No. It's referring to the regular edition and the special edition that usually comes with the box to hold the whole series and some cheap trinket for an extra ten bucks. |
Actually, that one really was about the region.
| GrinfilledCelt wrote: | | MidNightBlue wrote: | For example:
#F2. Some companies don't allow you to skip logo sequences and other similar trailers (by either using the skip button or the menu button). How do you feel about that? (check one)
I hate that |
Who doesn't? I thought that was a stupid question as was the previous one about regional locking (where disks from Japan or Europe wont play on American machines and visa versa.) Can anyone tell me what possible benefit for the consumer there is in that? |
Agreed. It's entirely for the sake of the publishers, and I'm sure they're aware that it annoys people, but don't care.
| GrinfilledCelt wrote: | | MidNightBlue wrote: | Or alternatively, something I don't understand why it would matter:
#F10. What kind of box do you MOST prefer to hold a series? (check one) |
Questions like this are why I know that this guy is, or these guys are, an industry marketing hack(s) as they would be the only people who would be interested in answers to such questions or even think of to ask them. |
I can see how it might be useful, but they made the question far too convoluted by listing every possibly type of box you could have. They could have made it far better by reducing it to a few simple questions. "What material do you prefer boxes to be made of?" "Do you prefer open boxes or boxes with a lid?" It doesn't need to be this complex.
| GrinfilledCelt wrote: | | Hungry Hungry Mongoose wrote: | | I do like the idea of paying to legally download anime. |
Well guess what? It's going to happen, they're just feeling out the market. I told them that I'd go for it as long as the quality and price are reasonable, like no more than 50% of a hard copy at a brick & mortar (online sales are almost pure profit). Also, I will not tolerate copy protection BS. None of this iTunes type crap. If I pay for the stuff, it's mine. I want to be able to back it up so I don't have to buy it again if my computer dies. I want to be able to take it over to a friend's house and play it on his machine. If they can figure out a way to let me do that and prevent me from making copies for all of my friends, I could live with that. |
They can do it by not using copy protection. It sounds mad to publishers in this day and age, but really, if someone wants to pirate something, they will. Even making copies for your friends isn't too bad, as among my friends we rarely double-up on anime. The real problem is being able to give it to people who aren't your friends.
But yeah, once I purchase something, I should be allowed to decide what format I put it in.
| Quote: | All that reminds me of this:
(PA comic) |
That one wasn't really about copy protection, though, but rather the awful design of Sony's online store. But it does remind me of when there were rumours of Sony locking game discs to the first PS3 they're played on, effectively killing the second-hand market and making rentals nigh impossible. Fortunately they proved to be false. I'd hope no company is that stupid, though some stuff is heading that way.
| MidNightBlue wrote: | | I treat anime as literature, whatever standards I hold to literature I hold the same for anime. If it doesn't pass as good literature ... |
While that's somewhat true for me, we may have very different standards of literature. And I tend to seperate things I watch for mindless entertainment from things that engage my mind, though there's certainly a crossover area.
For the genre part I explained that I can watch pretty much any genre, as long as it does something new.
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