Final Fantasy 12 = POS

LostInWonderland · Otaku Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 395 Location: Denver, CO

I wasn't a big fan of this watching my sister and her boyfriend playing it... but once I actually started my own game I found myself kind of liking it. The gambit system really saves a lot of X button mashing. I mean, it's not as great as some of the previous games, but it's a lot better than I expected.

Also, I love FF3, if only because I can take it with me everywhere. Playing Final Fantasy at work=awesome. Blue_PDT_01_06

Sorra · Otaku Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 440 Location: San Jose

I sort of miss the old turn based system though lol.

swollenlymphnodes · Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:02 pm Post subject:

I'm sure that it's a wonderful experience the way role-playing games are now online worlds. What better AI to run characters in a game than have them be real people? But... I just don't have the time to live another life online. It is slowly rendering the AI based RPG archaic. Which makes me sad. I miss the old FF games.

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GrinfilledCelt · Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:42 am Post subject:

I still have mine.
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jjjynx · Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:44 am Post subject:

I'll try to create something that'll make walking 3D images part of our everyday life, so everyone, live to see it someday.

I love "The World", it's a great concept, can be alot better.

Hungry Mongoose · Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:47 am Post subject:

jjjynx · Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:03 pm Post subject:

So what about if you do not gain level at all, and just depend on points that boss kills grants you to enable you to learn better skills, or maybe passive skills that boosts your stats?

Hungry Mongoose · Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject:

I've thought about that. Putting the focus on gaining abilities instead of stats make advancing more about accessing new options rather than plain old stat progression. As for the points coming from bosses, I'm less sure about that. If anything I see defeating bosses as needing less of a reward than average mooks. You have to fight the bosses anyway for plot progression, while I feel short of denying the ability to flee battles there would be less incentive to fight underlings. Money is one reward, but it'd only feel worth it if gaining cash was also important to further progression, something I'm not too keen on. Still, I suppose bosses being harder means you'd want something good out of it. It could be defeating bosses opens up new paths for abilities. But yeah, these are just random ideas.

Of course, as much as I dislike simple stat progression, I could see a need to increase stats over time. There's always this good feeling that comes from having a bit more HP or doing a bit more damage. The game just shouldn't be focused around it. Linking stat increases to abilities gained could be a way. Learning offensive abilities boosts your attack strength, and you could give players control of which abilities they learn, so if they focus entirely on offensive skills they'll end up with a defensively weak character, meaning they can't have a defensive powerhouse who can also dish out wild damage. The key is to keep it to small growths so that the stat progression isn't the main motivation for progression and there's less need to grind, while still being able to determine the growth of the character's raw traits.

Anyone who thinks this is bollocks can tell me so.
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swollenlymphnodes · Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:57 pm Post subject:

I guess it never bothered me too much. I've always played RPG's for the story lines. Something that the FF series was good at, and has since completely abandoned for the MMORPGs (what does that stand for by the way?).

That is a good point about having too many bland people, hopefully that will create some backlash to my more favored type of RPG.

I do think that is a great idea though, to use a point system to acquire skills instead of leveling up. jjjynx's idea is to root out the camping around waiting for easy kills to pad your levels. I do however want a reward for killing a boss.

I can't see anyway around stat progression either. I guess it's a matter of implementing it without the open endedness to get carried away with level boosting.
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GrinfilledCelt · Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:00 am Post subject:

MMORPG = massively multiplayer online role-playing game

I remember: "Look! A new Final Fantasy game. Squeel! FFXI. Buy it! Crap! It's $50! Oh well, it's Final Fantasy, it's gotta be good." Later at home skimming the directions, "What? It's @#$% MMORPG! You mean I have to pay to play a game I just paid $50 for? I don't think so."

The store wouldn't take it back of course since I had opened the box, so it sits on my shelf never having had the disk inserted into any drive.
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Hungry Mongoose · Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:52 pm Post subject:

Yeah, that was stupid. I don't blame Square Enix for making a MMORPG, but they really should've given it an alternate name. What's so wrong with "Final Fantasy Online?" And the tactics games already show that not every Final Fantasy game needs a number when they go for a different style of gameplay.